Tuesday, August 20, 2024

Plato and the internet conference that did not take place

 

On August 16 I received an email from John Doherty informing me about the Helpful Content Update (HCU), i.e. the efforts of the internet providers to weed out irrelevant pages ‘ranking in Google’, and to correct what needs correcting. I was particularly interested in the closing passage:

‘As always, if you're investing in content and want help making it better (or just making it at all), we'd love to chat with you at EditorNinja.’

I wrote to John Doherty:

‘I googled Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, which I wanted to view. I received a number of offers, in the first place  ITVX Free of charge.  I am 85, live on Pension Credit, and so I welcomed the ITVX offer. I clicked on Watch now Free of charge, but instead of the movie I expected, I was introduced to a tedious process of opening an account with ITVX. Resigned to this ITVX understanding of 'Free of charge', I followed the necessary steps, hoping that in the end I should be able to watch the movie. Instead, I was presented with an offer of movies which I was not interested in, but I could not find a way to opening 'Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets'.

The ITVX ‘offer’ can be seen as a sad joke. But when all those, who turn to the internet to get information on Plato, are misled and misinformed, this is no laughing matter.

When you google on Plato, you are offered ‘Platonic Chronology and Writings’. When you open it, you are offered a table, which tells you, that Plato began to write his dialogues after Socrates died.

And yet, the Meno was written – provably – several years prior to Socrates’ trial and death.’

In response, John Doherty offered me an internet meeting. The meeting was to take place on August 19, 2’30 pm to 3 pm. But at 2 pm, just as I opened the computer in preparation for the meeting, I found in my Inbox an email in which John Doherty wrote ‘I’m not quite sure what this has to do with my business? Can you please help me understand?’

I replied:

“A substantial Russian article on Plato on the internet quotes in its opening section the remark of Whitehead, British mathematician, logician, and philosopher: 'The European philosophy is best characterized as a series of remarks on Plato.'

All Plato's dialogues have been preserved; for centuries, prior to the press, they were copied and recopied by lovers of his works. This cannot be said of his predecessors and contemporaries.

People turn to Internet for information on Plato - and, as I have pointed out, they are misinformed: they learn that Plato wrote his dialogues after Socrates died, while it can be proved that Plato wrote the Meno prior to Socrates' trial and death: 

1. Diogenes Laertius writes in his 'Life of Socrates': Socrates 'would take to task those who thought highly of themselves, proving them to be fools, as to be sure he treated Anytus, according to Plato's Meno. For Anytus could not endure to be ridiculed by Socrates, and so in the first place stirred up against him Aristophanes and his friends; then afterwards he helped to persuade Meletus to indict him on a charge of impiety and corrupting the youth.' 

Anytus must have done this after the Meno had been circulated, and prior to Socrates' trial.

2. Xenophon writes in the Anabasis: 'the facts which everybody knows are the following: Meno was not, like Clearchus and the rest of the generals, beheaded - a manner of death which is counted speediest - but was tortured to death alive for a year and so met the death of a scoundrel.'

In his 'Life of Xenophon' Diogenes says: 'Xenophon took part in the expedition of Cyrus in the year before the death of Socrates.'

Socrates closes the Meno with the words: 'It is now time for me to go my way, but do you persuade Anytus of that of which you are now yourself persuaded, so as to put him in a gentler mood; for if you can persuade him, you will do a good turn to the people of Athens also.’

The question is, how could Plato write the Meno after all that Xenophon says about him in the Anabasis became generally known?”

Let me note that the facts about Meno, to which Xenophon points, must have been known in Greek territories long before Xenophon wrote the Anabasis.

John Doherty replied: ‘Thanks for the message. Unfortunately, I'm still confused as to why you're sending all of this to me. Are you writing a book or something, or was there something I or someone I know published that was incorrect?’

I replied: ‘In answer to your query, let me quote your own words:

“As always, if you're investing in content and want help making it better (or just making it at all), we'd love to chat with you at EditorNinja.”



 

 

 

Friday, August 16, 2024

ITVX

 I wrote to ITVX:

‘Dear ITVX,

I wanted to view 'Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets'. I googled it, got 'ITVX Free of Charge',

clicked on 'Watch', but instead of the movie I expected I was introduced to a tedious process of opening an account with ITVX. Resigned to this ITVX understanding of 'Free', I followed the necessary steps, hoping that in the end I should be able to watch the movie. Instead, I was presented with an offer of movies which I was not interested in, but I could not find a way to opening 'Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets'.

I am 85, if you can help an old man, please do. I would gladly see all Harry Potter films. So if you can open for me 'Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone', to begin with, please do. If you can't do so, please, cancel my subscription.

With the best wishes,

Dr Julius Tomin’

In response I received the following:

‘Message not delivered

Your message couldn't be delivered to ITVX@account.itv.com because the remote server is misconfigured. See the technical details below for more information.’

When I clicked on ‘the technical details’ I received the following:

‘The response from the remote server was:
550 5.7.1 relaying denied’