Saturday, April 27, 2024

Cratylus 10

Soc. But, as I was saying, my dear Hermogenes (a0ll o3per e0gw_ e1legon, w} maka/rie), let us get away from the Gods (a0pallagw~men e0k tw~n qew~n).

Her. From these sort of Gods, by all means, Socrates (Tw~n ge toiou/twn, w} Sw&kratesj, ei0 bou/lei). But why should we not discuss another kind of Gods (peri\ tw~n toiw~nde de\ ti/ se kwlu/ei dielqei=n) – the sun, moon, stars, earth, aether, air, fire, water, the seasons, and the year (oi[on h9li/ou te kai\ selh/nhj kai\ a1strwn kai\ gh=j kai\ ai0qe/roj kai\ a0e/roj kai\ puro\j  kai\ u3datoj kai\ w(rw~n kai\ e0niautou=;)?

Soc. You impose a great many tasks upon me (Suxna\ me/n moi prosta/tteij). Still (o3mwj de/), if you wish (ei1per soi kexarisme/non e1stai), I will not refuse (e0qe/lw).

Her. You will oblige me (Kai\ mh\n xarih=|).

Soc. How would you have me begin? Shall I take first of all him whom you mentioned first – the sun (Ti/ dh\ ou]n prw~ton bou/lei; h2 a#per ei]pej to\n h3lion die/lqwmen;)?

Her. Very good (Pa/nu ge).

Soc. The origin of the sun will probably be clearer in the Doric form, for the Dorians call him a3lioj, and this name is given to him because when he rises he gathers [a9li/zoi] men together or he is always rolling in his course [a0ei\ ei0lei=n i0w_n] about the earth; or from ai0olei=n, of which the meaning is the same as poiki/llein (to variegate), because he variegates the production of the earth (E!oike toi/nun kata/dhlon geno/menon a2n ma=llon ei0 tij Ddwrikw~| tij o0no/mati xrw~|to a3lion ga\r kalou=sin oi9 Dwrih=j a3lioj ou]n ei1h me\n a2n kata\ to\ a9li/zein ei0j tau0to\n tou\j a0nqrw&pouj e0peida\n a0natei/lh|, ei1h d a2n kai\ tw~| peri\ th\n gh=na0ei\ ei/lein i0w&n, e0oi/koi d a2n kai\ o3ti poiki/llei i0w_n ta\ gigno/mena e0k th=j gh=j, to\ de\ poiki/llein kai\ ai0olei=n tau0to/n).

Her. But what is selh/nh (the moon) (Ti/ de\ h9 selh=nh;)?

Soc.

 

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